
Back in 2006, I’d heard his music, but I didn’t hear him. Back in 2007, he attended a party I hosted, still hadn’t heard him. But back in July, I heard him for the first time, with eager ears – secretly I’d been listening to J. Cole’s horn blaring “I Get Up” at my corporate gig. Days before his performance I anticipated a large stage, flashing lights, barriers – on the day of the event there was a couch, dark lights, and a familiar, boyish, charming rapper.
I watched 23-year-old Jermaine Cole walk into the Soho Grand Hotel in New York City with the same anticipation I had earlier that night, hoping he’d perform “I Get Up.” He looks excited, in striped Polo, Mac Book Pro in hand. You can’t tell from his smile that this son of a white actress from North Carolina can vividly paint a picture for you about the wonders of both worlds – black and white. There’s no doubt in his tone that he is going to be the best. He knew it at 12, and stands by it now. Fayetteville holds his fondest memories – basketball dreams, Friday night ciphers at football games. We talk about inspiration, that moment that comes by and you can’t shake. “It’s a feeling that comes over me, I start pulling from experiences because I know I’ll never get it back.”
There’s some talk of J. Cole’s music on the Internet. But he knows this is the beginning. Not trendy, stylish, certainly not hipster rap, more “I want to make it cool to have morals. Not be a saint, because I’m not. But I like to explore what it’s like to be a man.”
Just months after his debut mixtape, The Come Up hit the net, he’s already over it. That material was recorded years ago. Far more quality music, growth, and life experiences have taught him patience and diligence since his college days at St. John’s University. Weeks ago on set at a photo shoot, his manager mentions a possible performance out of state: “We’re just working on the money.” “I don’t need any money,” the artist responds. He creates music as producer first – then writes. Consider this brief introduction – “Hi, my name’s J. Cole, nice to meet you.” – in a sweet and raw Southern accent.
On The Come Up.
The Come Up actually dropped a year ago and no one knew. Passing out CDs at North Carolina’s A&T’s Homecoming for $1. Because if someone gives you a CD for free, you’re going to throw that shit out. But if you paid at least a dollar for it you’re going to give it a listen. We finally released it online and got a crazy response. On numerous occasions, someone will be talking to me and say, “Yo, you ever heard of this rapper, J. Cole?” That was so crazy to me.
First time.
I started rapping at age 12. I wrote my first rap when Tupac died. It went something like, “You had love in the east, but you didn’t know it.” It was corny.
Talk on the Internet.
There are two things that are important to me. An industry buzz, the shit you don’t see. Not the blog shit, the executive shit. Going in and sitting with executives and A&R’s. It’s one thing to have a street buzz, I mean, Papoose had a street buzz – it’s another to have people in the game asking about you.
Life after college.
Rapping is it. I want to be the best. College was my ticket to New York and a big ass distraction. I didn’t forget about rap, I just put it on the back burner. It was beautiful because college provided me with experiences that molded me as a person. Now I’m back to where I started and literally on the road to be the greatest.
Biggest challenges with rap.
My favorite rappers rap about shit that I could never rap about. It’s all art and entertainment at the end of the day and you choose your persona but there is something in me that won’t let me choose something that doesn’t socially reflect who I am. Tupac, Nas, and Jay-Z, rap about a lot of street shit that I know about from my experiences. I’m challenged to find the most creative ways to still reel people in with different stories that they can relate to. It’s also an opportunity because it’s a lane that has never been done. Every now and then I do want to kill someone on my song, for fun. Just to see what it will be like. Sometimes you want to play different roles because you know you can.
Best advice.
The higher your goals are, and the bigger you dream, the smaller your competition becomes. I know what I’m aiming for. I want to be remembered as one of the best to do it. I want it to happen naturally, I almost don’t like saying it. When you strive to make timeless classics, your competition becomes so little, because these dudes that are doing it on blogs – their goal is to get hot and land a deal and put out a hot single. You get what you ask for. But what happens after that? You’re like, “Oh shit, I should have asked for something else.” You already got to the top of what you wanted. I’m going to be more patient because my competition is greater. I’m not even concerned about the rappers on blogs.
On beauty.
You know how many arguments I got into about this (goatee)? “Yo son I’m telling you, they’re going to cut it off.” Where I’m from this is what we have. It’s a personal attachment. If you’re telling me that cutting this off is going to get me a deal, I don’t want your deal.
Floor or counter?
Floor is always fun. Like if you’re in college and you have roommates, but you don’t want the bed to squeak. So you move to the far end of the room, kind of out of their sight.

First concert.
My mom took me to see classic shit like James Taylor; at the time of course I didn’t appreciate it. Now I realize he’s a genius. She also took me to a Peter, Paul and Mary show; they’re a folk group (starts singing “Puff, The Magic Dragon”). The first rap show I went to was Ruff Ryders and Cash Money. I was such a DMX fanatic, just standing in the crown with my X in the air. X, Babbbby.
What kept you in college?
My mom never got a chance to go to college. The opportunity wasn’t there. When I was younger, it was always school is the most important shit. And although the work came easy, I always knew school wasn’t my passion. I came up here thinking I’d get signed and never have to finish. It didn’t happen like that.
Miss most about college.
Man, no responsibilities. When you graduate, and that second month’s rent is due, it hits you. When you’re in school, you’re just a broke college student. It’s acceptable. But when you’re out of school and you’re broke, you’re just a broke-ass nigga. It’s real life broke. There are no more excuses. It’s almost cool to say, “Damn, man, I’m broke,” when you’re a student. But when you’re not, it’s like, “You’re a grown-ass man get a job.” I miss the lack of responsibility and freedom.
Last book you read.
Celestine Prophecy. I believe in spirituality. Also, The Color of Water, it’s about a black kid being raised by a white mother. Being embarrassed that you have a white mother but she really doesn’t care. She doesn’t give a fuck, ’cause that’s your mom. But in your world it’s so important to you. Like does she know she’s white? We use to go to a Baptist church and she was the only white person in there. She didn’t feel uncomfortable at all.
Black and white – then and now.
It was weird. You know you love your mom with all your heart. But you’re growing up in a society where your friends will clown you about anything. So then you do things you regret years later like deny your mom. Maybe shy away from bringing her to certain events because you think people may make fun of you. It’s an amazing experience because I get to see both sides of everything, from my white side of the family to the black side. I have it all. Suburb whites, suburb blacks, poor white and blacks. I can speak everyone’s language. Now it’s something I’m proud of. It’s an advantage. I’ll flaunt it before I shy away from it.
One thing your mother was right about.
She always told me I was going to be an actor. She’s an actress and always starred in local plays and productions. Winning local awards, I thought “Good job, mom.” When I look back at all the things she was doing, she is incredible. She can get into character so quick. She always tells me I have it in my genes. Rapping is like an actor on stage, you get into character and just perform.
Most embarrassing moment.
I was like 16 or 17 at a teen club, participating in a rap battle. I knew what I had and in my mind I knew I was so much better than the guys that were battling. All my friends are there – they know my talent, my ability, and me. Everyone’s young around this time, so the audience is easily impressed. I spit my verse first, it’s hot and the crowd is going crazy. The next dude, he gets up there, his verse is pretty lame and boring. The crowd is not impressed at all. His last line was this, “You ain’t So So Def, your teeth just got jagged edges.” Crowd goes insane! When he said it, I put my hand over my face, and the crowd got even more excited. After years of analyzing, I realized I beat myself. Everyone could feed off my energy and see that it hit me personally. It taught me people react off how you react. If they don’t see anything faze you, they wont know. Man, that was embarrassing as hell.
Performing artist.
I use to think I was automatically good at performing because I can rap. Once I learned to connect with the crowd and not be all over the place – avoiding that natural tendency to want to please the entire crowd. You want everyone to get a little bit of your energy but you can’t do that because if you see one person who doesn’t look into it, that’ll fuck with your mind. One thing I learned to do is to just perform without seeing them. And they’re going to naturally be drawn to you.
On “I Get Up.”
I was going through the Hypnotic Brass Ensemble’s CD and I hear the song. I couldn’t believe it. So I make the beat and it’s so sick. I know I want to do something to it. Instantly I hear the words “I Get Up” in my head, just humming the hook. Sometimes my own beats intimidate me, I sat on it for weeks. I wrote the line “Paint a picture to show the deaf what it’s like to listen. Speak the words tell a blind man what he’s missing.” What if you could really do that? That would be some wild shit. You have to find the perfect picture and words. That shit is amazing. Really, I just wanted to make some uplifting shit. Something with positive messages but still keep it my normal self – struggling between ignorance and enlightenment.

All photos by Rahan Cotterel
Listen to some tracks here. Also at Myspace.com/therapistmusic
I Get Up
September 25, 2008 at 11:43 am |
Dude is next…for real
September 25, 2008 at 1:43 pm |
Man, this was a fantastic interview.
September 25, 2008 at 1:46 pm |
“I Get Up” is so fucking ill.
“ill teach him about loyalty, ill teach him that his skin black like oil, thats for royalty”
Hot ass post Elley,
September 25, 2008 at 1:48 pm |
:::looked at pictures again:::
This nigga looking kinda right.=)
:::runs out post:::
September 25, 2008 at 3:07 pm |
isn’t that the same roof from the meth and mary video?
i’m just sayin…
i’m at work – so i’ll make a REAL comment about him and the interview once i get a chance to go home and read it tonight…
September 25, 2008 at 4:04 pm |
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September 25, 2008 at 4:57 pm |
“Floor is always fun.” but not doggy style. no rug burns on these knees.
j. cole, is a good look to the industry. i appreciate him being a smarty, and not rapping bout ass and tits. for real.
ill buy his cd for 2 dollars, maybe 3.
September 25, 2008 at 5:03 pm |
alright, reg price
September 25, 2008 at 7:08 pm |
this nigga right here is the future.
very well written.
September 25, 2008 at 7:24 pm |
rahan is the best photographer in the business.
September 25, 2008 at 11:07 pm |
He needs to come to UMASS asapital. I can see a lot of people here gigging to his pieces.
September 26, 2008 at 8:16 am |
…that was a thoroughly written article shorty.
(No disrespect)
But this goes to show you that you should never judge a book by its cover.
J is a real, down-to-earth, motivated brother that is serious about his art.
No gimmicks
No swag
Just hip hop soul music.
Also, I like the fact that you took the time out to touch on topics such as education, responsiblilty, and race. It was definitely a more than music moment.
Whenever you hear someone says “I don’t need any money” you know that their going to be a problem.
Much respect
September 26, 2008 at 8:21 am |
P.S.
I’m really, really, really feeling the fact that this nigga doesn’t make any techno music!!!
No shots, just being real!
September 28, 2008 at 2:04 pm |
(Listening to the song)
I enjoyed this interview. COSIGN the college experience. “You’re justa broke college student”. College is an excuse for everything in life when you’re there… when its time to be an adult.. it sucks. I dug that.
I enjoyed this. And Im enjoying this song… sidebar: his voice is very clear.
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October 1, 2008 at 9:05 am |
Impressive interview.. i like how they didnt list the questions, just topics.. This dude got a pretty crazy arsenal.. If you only heard a little of his shit, you are in for a lot more bangers!!!
October 2, 2008 at 11:21 am |
Shauna’s top 5 dead or alive and that’s just off one lp!!!
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March 10, 2009 at 1:59 am |
moist
March 10, 2009 at 2:00 am |
“lights please”
live though.
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March 18, 2009 at 12:10 am |
This is a great interview man, great answers and great questions as well, dope on both sides…nice
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I Get Up Lyrics
by grownsimbanyc
i aint write the song i just took out the time to write the lyrics i hope
is correct… but if you read the lyrics yull understand the song better
J.cole i see ya homie
(Verse 1)
i woke up ealry in the mornin’ hoes blowin up my phone
and the use of small talkin’ when they know im tryna bone fuck em’
i holla later man right now my mind else where my moms health care
get her out this hell here alot of niggas fail real niggas won’t prevail here
we seen it all man niggas can’t even spell scared a fresh prince but yo my city ain’t no bel air fuck if you a cell im worried bout my welfare so farewell to them broke days and bars sure to the most paid soon as my dough straight i throw the wifey in some dolce and put some chains on my niggas like own slaves i get up look out the window hope the sun shining down on a nigga outhere front lining i hit the streets and see them boys out here locking up some older head so god damn homey hold ya head(and hold ya head.)
(Chorous)
i get up i see the cloud from my window i pray the sun don’t shine this way and where i go as the wind blow momma ya son gon’ find his way and if i gotta crawl ima make to the end though up to the top if climb my way and tell em ima rise im on my… headed for the sky im on my way
(Verse 2)
paint a picture and show the deaf what is like to listen and speak the words and tell a blind man what he missin’ for all my niggas doin’ time man up in prison thought you had to resort to crime man fuck the system we raisin’ babies up in hati where it aint’ no hope aint no fathers dont take no scholarship to slang no dope politicians hollerin’ bout problems but i aint gon’ vote he talk bout change still we floatin’ in the same ol’ boat so tell me how’m suppose to feel when the president spoke when he aint neva had to struggle aint neva been broke aint even roll through the ghetto aint neva been close trustin’ this government like trustin the devil in oath for rebel in coast i get up life style of the young black and reckless a generation of niggas strapped and askin questions like tell me why aint got shit i let this liquor fill my liver wit them toxic as i sip
i get up i see the cloud from my window i pray the sun don’t shine this way and where i go as the wind blow momma ya son gon’ find his way and if i gotta crawl ima make to the end though up to the top if climb my way and tell em ima rise im on my… headed for the sky im on my way
(Verse 3)
yeh… to all my niggas paper chasin’ i pray for your patients just keep the faith that you gon’ make it one day youll be cakin takin this shit one step at a time that real shit is stuck in my mind but to that bullshit im destined im blind destined to shine ima find a way cuz hey dammit them jobs outhere aint’ tryna pay i pray granted 9 to 5 is how you survive i aint tryna survive im tryna throw my momma in rides ima provide for my seed im the soil i teach em bout loyalty i teach em that his skin black like oil that’s for royalty i show em all the thangs that my pops was neva showin me treat em like a growin’ tree with this poetry i get up and show the sons how to lead not to follow the precience i gift but i sees got tommorow so please niggas raise your kids and help em over come that bull shit they daze us with i blaze the shit
(Chorous)
i get up i see the cloud from my window i pray the sun don’t shine this way and where i go as the wind blow momma ya son gon’ find his way and if i gotta crawl ima make to the end though up to the top if climb my way and tell em ima rise im on my… headed for the sky im on my way